Jeff Gordon > Dale Earnhardt

July 11th, 2006, 01:36 PM

Judge them however you like. Once you put everybody in the same car, don't run at least something like what is in the showroom, and split hairs, you have "Rasslin' on Wheels"- it isn't racing stockcars anymore. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**TheBeast** · July 11th, 2006, 02:07 PM

This is true. I am not at all likin the idea of the car of tommorow that they will be running some next year. I would be inclined if I were Chevy, Ford, Dodge to pull out of Nascar completely and not have any association with those cars or the sport since Nascar won't let them do like they did for years and build a car to race and then produce it like the Daytona SuperBee, Lumina, Monte Carlo, Thunderbird of the 80's etc.

**Indian09** · July 11th, 2006, 03:14 PM

i aint or never have been an Earnhardt or Gordon fan but, barring 4 or 5 more championships from Gordon, Earnhardt will always be better than Gordon. I know people are going to mention the 2001 cup and the 2005 500 but Gordon hasnt done much since evernham left.

**R0cketer** · July 11th, 2006, 03:27 PM

It's like comparing baseball players or football players from other eras against each other. Too many elements to even say the things are equal even if he wins the same amount of championships.

**starbuck** · July 11th, 2006, 04:31 PM

anyway you look at it the best driver today is Tony Stewart. I think he can control a car almost as good as Dale Sr. could and hands down the best crew has to be Jimmie Johnson but with all the rules infractions it takes away from the crew. I've never seen a guy run like junk for 90% of the race and on the last pitstop have the car to beat. (and I hate Johnson)

July 11th, 2006, 04:49 PM

Gordon will never tie Dale Sr...because Gordon doesn't want to.

Jeff has said numerous times that if he gets to six he'll retire...

**TheBeast** · July 11th, 2006, 05:08 PM

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I've never seen a guy run like junk for 90% of the race and on the last pitstop have the car to beat.

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Whatever they have found to cheat will be found soon enough and they will come up with something else. Like Kasey Kahne had the same car that has won 3 races this year and looked like it was unstopable and on the track Sunday the same type of track as the others he couldn't hardly get out of his own way.

I also agree that Tony is the best out there today, he has total car control. I will say that I think Jr is just as good maybe just a tad less but he has unbelieveable car control as well. Both can make there cars do things that they shouldn't. The biggest thing with Jr is they have been struggling to get their cars up to par with the other teams because of some inner turmoil at the shop which I do believe is under control now.

**PVVikeFan** · July 11th, 2006, 06:22 PM

With a lot of luck and dirty driving as displayed this past Sunday Sissy Jeff could possibly pass Old Ironhead. But he will NEVER be the MAN Dale was.